Gomez gets beat!!! 32-1 dog wins!!

almly · Aug 13, 2004

Gomez got tko'd in the first round and fightnews is calling it an extremely controversial stoppage. Gomez was over -3200 to win and I swear if he was -1000 I would have dumped on it. Did this ref have a play on it?
I am shocked that this could happen. I have pegged Gomez as the next great heavyweight. I need to see this knockdown.

I am so godman pissed that I couldnt see this fight. All these good Latin fights are on Telefutura on Friday nights but the piece of
sh!t station doesnt air anywhere. I live 15 god damn miles from Tijuana and we dont get it. I called around to 20 sports bars in San Diego today and not one has telefutura because they all have direct tv and direct tv doesnt carry it. I mean seriously - how stupid is that?

Anyway, I am going to order this fight on tape. I need to see it. If it is a bs stoppage than I'll be REALLY looking to make a play on Gomez for his next fight possibly. I think he'd be an animal mentally and I really like his skills from that one fight I've seen with Sinal Sam.

Remember, Sam was the guy that ko'd Danny Williams.

Gillian · Aug 13, 2004

I lost $3000 on that fight!!!!

F-ck!!!!

What total bullsh-t!

almly · Aug 13, 2004

Ouch thats gotta hurt. I actually toyed with the idea of doing the same thing but what for? A hundred bucks? Its not worth laying that wood under any circumstances.

valdosta · Aug 13, 2004

Oddly enough, fightnews seems to be the only people that think this was an early stoppage. I know a few people who have saw it and they don't think it was premature. Here's a one of them....

there was nothing premature about the stoppage..
gomez looked slow, didn't look in the best of shape, he was caught with a right hand to his left temple, was sent against the ropes and azcuy unloaded 17 right hands (I counted) and a couplle of lefts in between..nineteen unanswered punches when the ref stepped in to stop the fight...

tonymontana+ · Aug 14, 2004

I didnt expect that exspecially no tko, but -3000 was rediculous and i checked the record of the other cuban and it didnt look to bad.
I am proud of myself, i wasnt even tempted to bet gomez not even at-1000. I learned my lesson with Klitschko and jones.

almly · Aug 14, 2004

Tony, this has to be even more of a shocker to you being from Germany and all. The Universum thing. This has to shock the sh!t out of you.

I overrated a little bit about Fightnews calling it premature. They imply that but I went a little overboard. They dont go ballistic with it like I implied. They just say that Gomez took like 11 right hands in a row but didnt look all that hurt.

tonymontana+ · Aug 14, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by almly:
Tony, this has to be even more of a shocker to you being from Germany and all. The Universum thing. This has to shock the sh!t out of you.

I overrated a little bit about Fightnews calling it premature. They imply that but I went a little overboard. They dont go ballistic with it like I implied. They just say that Gomez took like 11 right hands in a row but didnt look all that hurt. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Surprised yes but not shocked. these are big boys and the opponent was decent amateur and had one point loss and gomez comes in at 228, 15 pounds heavier than against Sam. Gomez has a lot of talent but he is full of it also. he is still a great dog against the famous guys.
The signs were there.
We should be thankful that gomez fucked up now and not when we are on him big.

sphincter · Aug 14, 2004

i was thinking,watching sam vs gomez,that gomez didn`t appear to set down on his shots...and when he did,it didn`t seem like he had serious heavyweight power.....the guy looked like a solid boxer....but,i don`t think his power has followed him to the heavyweight division...

but,to be fair,considering the move up in weight....all the inactivity and his managerial and promotional problems,maybe this isn`t as big a shock as we all seem to think....

lets see if the guy is serious about becoming more active...and re-dedicating himself...

he`s only 31....considering the circumstances,it`s possible that this was just one of those things...

if he`s off for another 10 months,maybe the guy just isn`t seriously interested anymore...

and how about candelo...a "weigh-in" sub....a guy hanging around at the weigh in,sweats 8 pounds off the day before the bout and beats candelo.....

j.c.is so stiff in the ring....throws such long punches.....that a little movement kills him...if he can`t set his feet...if his opponent doesn`t stand directly in front of him...or is quick,j.c. is in trouble....

this may be the end for candelo...as any kind of contender...peripheral or otherwise....

it was friday the 13th,wasn`t it....

Gillian · Aug 14, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by tonymontana:
Surprised yes but not shocked. these are big boys and the opponent was decent amateur and had one point loss and gomez comes in at 228, 15 pounds heavier than against Sam. Gomez has a lot of talent but he is full of it also. he is still a great dog against the famous guys.
The signs were there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

EASY FOR YOU TO SAY NOW. Then why didn't you bet on the dog for +2500. Huh? Whatever... this guy hadn't even gone 10 rounds before as a pro, hadn't fought anyone. Went the distance his last three fights or so against chumps, one of which he lost. Gomez was 37-0-31 and fromer Cruiserweight champ. Easy to say after the fact.

I'm venting because these upsets have taken there toll on me this year. the heavyweight division if a f-cken joke. By the way... this loss is more of an upset then if De La Hoy beats Hopkins. No one, I mean NO ONE bet against Gomez.

tgoodm1 · Aug 14, 2004

This has been a very unpredictable year in boxing. I did extremely well for the latter part of 2002 and all of 2003. But this year has really sucked. First Guinn gets defeated by Barrett, Jones gets KOd by Tarver, and Bojado loses to Leija. If Guinn and Bojado would have been active throughout their respective bouts, I still feel that they could have won easily. They just lacked confidence and activity level. Unfortunately I went very large on the Guinn and Bojado bouts.

And the trend continues in boxing. I was not all that shocked about Candelo losing last night after watching his opponent box for the 1st couple of rounds. Sanchez was a decent long armed fighter who was always moving. In addition, he had some pop. He gave Candelo fits. His long arms helped him defensively whenever Candelo tried to launch an offensive attack. He probably would have KOd Candelo had he been in his best shape.

I was shocked when I saw Gomez get KO'd by his opponent last night. I could also tell that Gomez was not in the best of shape because he just looked a little more trim when he last fought almost a year ago. I just thought that he had a better chin. I only had a chance to see the replay once, but I believe it was a good shot to the chin that hurt Gomez initially. And the referee made a good stoppage IMO. Some refs might have stopped that fight sooner. Gomez was just covering up and not fighting back because he was clearly hurt. He was not at all disappointed at the ref's stopping the fight either. But then again, if you had paid close attention to Gomez' style in the ring, you would have noticed that Gomez likes to toy a little in the ring when fighting. In other words, he doesn't always take his opponent seriously and last night he paid for it. BTW, I saw this fight on DirecTV.

At this rate, I would not be shocked if Hopkins gets KO'd by DLH. It just seems as if easy money in boxing is just hard to come by now.

almly · Aug 14, 2004

You saw the fight on Direct tv? I called those dickheads and they told me that they dont carry telefutura in any of their packages. Candelo is slower than an eldery florida driver. I have no idea how he could look so good against Wright and then be so horrible after that.

Its so ridiculous that none of these heavies have anywhere near the skill that fighters at lighter weights have. Thats why I was so impressed with Gomez, I see alot of skill that you just dont see from other heavies.

I think your right Spinch about his situation probably contributing to it. The guy signs with SRL and then doesnt have one fight with them for I dont know what reason and then he has to go to court to have it declared that he isnt under contract with anybody because he cant get a fight because the promoters think he's under contract with SRL. The guys career has been a mess for the last year.

But Tony and me are on the same page. If he gets his act together and gets straightened out I think he could make alot of noise in this sorry ass division. But who knows? Maybe his heart isnt in it anymore. But if this is the wakeup call that he needs then I think theres some serious opportunity to make some cash off of this guy. He would murder guys like Rahman and alot of other heavies out there if he gets his head back in the game.

tgoodm1 · Aug 14, 2004

Telefutura is part of my local channels package.

tonymontana+ · Aug 15, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by almly:
You saw the fight on Direct tv? I called those dickheads and they told me that they dont carry telefutura in any of their packages. Candelo is slower than an eldery florida driver. I have no idea how he could look so good against Wright and then be so horrible after that.

Its so ridiculous that none of these heavies have anywhere near the skill that fighters at lighter weights have. Thats why I was so impressed with Gomez, I see alot of skill that you just dont see from other heavies.

I think your right Spinch about his situation probably contributing to it. The guy signs with SRL and then doesnt have one fight with them for I dont know what reason and then he has to go to court to have it declared that he isnt under contract with anybody because he cant get a fight because the promoters think he's under contract with SRL. The guys career has been a mess for the last year.

But Tony and me are on the same page. If he gets his act together and gets straightened out I think he could make alot of noise in this sorry ass division. But who knows? Maybe his heart isnt in it anymore. But if this is the wakeup call that he needs then I think theres some serious opportunity to make some cash off of this guy. He would murder guys like Rahman and alot of other heavies out there if he gets his head back in the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Almy if you didnt see the stopping, here is a clip of it. I didnt even recognize Gomez at first. He is fat and at the beginning he is smiling in his typical arrogant way.
http://members.cox.net/enigdrew/gomez.wmv

Gillian · Aug 15, 2004

Something is fishy about that fight... the guy was throwing punches like a hockey player when he gets into a fight. What a f-ck wod that Gomez is. Good actor.

tgoodm1 · Aug 15, 2004

This was a very good stoppage. Gomez was clearly hurt and unable to defend himself.

Gillian · Aug 15, 2004

Not the stoppage... Gomez.

Why did all of a sudden he not know how to fight? Avoid punches? He looked drunk.

what a joke.

almly · Aug 16, 2004

I tried to view it Tony but it says "access denied".

sphincter · Aug 16, 2004

tony...thanks for putting it up...that was great.....looked like a legit stoppage....the guy did some holding and hitting....but at the end,gomez was slumped against the ropes and his hands were down.....

looked to me...from the smile...that he may have been a little to relaxed in there...

apparently,he never saw nate campbell/robbie peden......i wish i`d never seen it...lol

you computer guys are worth your weight...

appreciated...

tonymontana+ · Aug 17, 2004

@ almy
I just checked it and it works fine, maybe it was temporarily overloaded ? Sorry i am not very good with computers, just try again.
good luck

BTW did a little research on Velardez :
Bad
low ko rate
He is a welterweight

good
He droped David estrada in their bout, but lost by ud.

Since i havent seen neither i stay away but on paper it looks like another dec win for Vanda,
maybe the under at +250 with Velardez stepping up ?